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Intense Backlash Surrounds The Fable 5 Announcement

The Fable 5 Backlash Is Getting Serious

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42 thoughts on “Intense Backlash Surrounds The Fable 5 Announcement

  1. Fuck all AI. None of this is good for humanity. A few companies stole the intelligence of everyone and now think they can guard rail and charge for that intelligence. We need to wake up and cancel this crap. Permanently.

  2. Someone is really enjoying this. They call it Mythos, but just in case that wasn't obvious enough, this one is actually called (a) Fable. 🤣 Couldn't help it.

  3. Here's an idea. Stop using proprietary AI models. Use only open source. Better yet, use local models. Stop giving these companies money and giving them a reason to screw over all other aspects of digital computing. IE: Memory shortages and price hikes.

  4. Using Fable 5 model to analyse a small 60kb HTML file and provide an overview on low effort literally used 5% of my usage limit. That to me is already proof this AI is useless for normal users and its useless for enterprise users for the safety reasons, so who is this actually for?

  5. STOP CHARGING ME FOR SAFETY TOKENS and then I won't care about these small fry issues as the strengths of the new models will compensate for the safety polluted context.

  6. Yeah, I work in healthcare, and the majority of healthcare-related questions I try to ask are refused. There's very little incentive for me to use Mythos for work-themed topics. I could definitely use help, but refusing to help is far from helpful. I'm also having trust issues now. If the AI starts giving me good answers and then secretly degrades them after we've tested it, we're endangering the patients of anyone who relies on our answers to make treatment decisions. I can't put people in harm's way like this.

  7. I am just trying to generate code with Fable and it has burned better than half of a 5 hour session and produced nothing. All it does is eat money and produces nothing. This has been my expereince.

  8. This is exactly the reaction they want. You watch next they’ll be strict KYC for all amd any accounts wanting to “reduce guardrails”. Look at the bigger picture people, everything is playing out exactly as they want it to. You think their AI didn’t anticipate this?

  9. I am retired. I just want the smartest LLM so I can be confident it is beside me as the best LLM it can be. Not for creating viruses, not for creating new LLM's, just because all the leading AI companies keep telling us we will all get a free LLM to "walk beside us" through our lives. It's for bill paying, for tech advice on my own laptop, for queries on geography, map routes, and where I can find that O-ring I need for my pool pump.
    Whatever. I just want the best model I can get because with that, my own confidence in the model improves, and I feel better about it being reliably intelligent on all my queries that mean nothing to anybody but me. Is that so wrong?
    Can they not just give domestic users like myself their latest models and coding it not tell us how to manufacture viruses and nuclear weapons? I can deal with that.
    "Claude, can you please tell me how to create a [specific] virus?" "no? Oh ok, so what can I make for dinner with half a leftover sausage, a cup of milk, and some stale bread"? Lol.

  10. In other words, each time a model increases in capacity, it will have larger safety filters, which in practice means that statistically, you pay more for a capacity that is the same as the previous ones.

  11. My experience so far is that it is desperately overconfident, desperately biased, and opinionated to the extent that it's a woke separatist feminist.

  12. as some one that has been Banned For zero reason and then the nightmare with eventually getting Un-Banned and account reinstated.
    the false positives are very triggering and scared of having that bull happen again.

    it gets anywhere near the login system in your project it triggers, have had a few triggers with applying sensitization

  13. yeah worked great for gpt4o… this router that they built at open AI and then left for Anthropic.
    that thing flaged so much BS and was soooo annoying….
    I was actually waiting for something like that to happen at anthropic^^

  14. Fable 5 is not just censored. It's also of Sonnet-like (it told me that!!!!) dastardly, directives ignoring, headbutting problems instead of the super-rational Opus 4.8 approach. Also, Fable dumped me when I asked to help me debug an issue on my own PC: a WordPress website I am developing (= on WAMP stack on my PC) had a caching issue. The INSTANT Fable 5 decided – on its own – to check memcached, I got reported and dumped!
    Next day, I had WhatsApp on my own computer constantly crashing with "unexpected error". I asked Fable to find cause and fix and after it started Microsoft Edge in debug mode (on my PC), it dumped me again for hacking reasons!

  15. Its not even that impressive it still cant code anything complex that wasnt already in its model in some form without very strict guidance. I also got downgraded in the middle of a session for fake security flags so now if im probing an external anything i put in an extra rollback prompt so i can rollback and re-enable the correct model again. You can no longer use the word "hack" casually like "Lets hack this local whatever to add suport to xyz" u phrase it like that anymore and they block you. Thats not intelligence thats a lazy cope layer.

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